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Ukrainecast

2025: A decisive year for Ukraine?

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Could American military aid dry up once Donald Trump enters the White House in 2025? Are Russians and Ukrainians ready for a peace deal? And how might that take shape?

BBC Eastern Europe correspondent Sarah Rainsford and Russia expert Mark Galeotti are joined by an assortment of experts to look ahead to what could be a pivotal year for the war in Ukraine.

Also, the BBC’s Tim Whewell is in the studio to discuss an issue that could overshadow Poland’s support for Kyiv.

Today’s episode is presented by Jamie Coomarasamy and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Ben Tavener and Eleanor Dengate-Harrison. The technical producer was Philip Bull. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sara Wadeson. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

It's 1,021 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.4

And over the weekend, President Zelensky and President-elect Trump

0:14.3

met face-to-face for the first time since the US presidential election.

0:19.2

They held talks in Paris on Saturday with French president Eminel Macron, also there.

0:26.1

And the handshake between Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron, that was interesting.

0:31.7

As he often does, Donald Trump seemed keen to squash Macron's hand. The handshake caused a stir on social media,

0:42.5

and here's how it was discussed on Fox News. Congresswoman Annapolina Loina joins us now. All right,

0:49.0

so Congresswoman, when you see the video of Trump grab Macron like this and just yank,

0:53.4

grab him and twist it.

0:55.6

What message does that send?

0:57.7

It's the alpha energy that the world needs right now.

1:00.7

You know, after four years...

1:02.2

As for President Zelensky, he joined the meeting for the last 10 minutes.

1:07.6

And after the meeting, Donald Trump posted this on truth social, a social network.

1:13.9

He said that there should be an immediate ceasefire and negotiations should begin.

1:19.6

He said, I know Vladimir Putin well, this is his time to act and China can help.

1:25.6

And Zelensky, after this meeting, he also posted something on social

1:29.1

media. He said, he told Donald Trump that Vladimir Putin is only afraid of him and possibly China.

1:35.6

Well, he's also posted something about Emmanuel Macron. We'll get onto that a bit later on,

1:40.3

but we'll be looking today at what kind of role Donald Trump can play in the conflict.

1:45.5

That will all, of course, come into sharper focus once he's back in the White House in

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