My next guest to somebody I always hate to bother because he's so busy.

Bless you.

And he winds up oftentimes reaching out to me because I just don't like to bother people.

And when I got started in politics and started writing at Red State, I got a copy of

Russell Kirk's conservative mind in the mail with a note in it. If you're

going to be a voice for conservatism, be sure what you believe. And it was from my next guest,

who I had never met and went up to D.C. and spent time with him. And at the time, he was running

the Republican Study Committee, which at the time was the conservative voice in Congress.

And then he became a governor and then he became vice president of the United States.

And through it all, he's always been guided by his faith and by a real commitment to truth.

And not his truth, but the truth.

Like I say on radio all the time, if Jesus says I'm the way, the truth and the life,

then truth is objective and knowable.

And he's always been committed to knowing not just Christ,

but also real, objective, knowable truth,

and grounding himself in the timeless principles of truth.

And so he's never been willing to compromise

on the principles that I think have guided the nation

for so long.

And it's just, I love being able to call him a friend

and also someone who regularly praise for my family,

particularly for my wife.

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