This is The Tortoise.

The podcast, all about the possibilities of slow.

I am your host, Brooke McCallory, and I'm joined by Ben McCallory, my co-host.

Wonderful to be here with you today.

Likewise, my dear.

In our last episode for 2023.

I know, let's bring this energy up a little bit.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Well, let me just have a little sip of my coffee.

Hopefully, those playing along at home, you have an appropriate beverage

listening and hopefully relaxing into the last part of the year. Yes, that would be wonderful

if everyone could take a minute and soften into what's been a year. It's been a year. Quite a big year.

What's not big year though?

And that's exactly right.

I remember I think we ended last year or started this year by really minimizing our expectations.

Yeah.

We said, 2023, please don't suck.

And I think we achieved that goal.

How did that go?

For the most part, I feel like we achieved that goal. And I think that achieve that goal. How did that go? For the most part, I feel like

we achieve that goal. And I think that's good because that's life, right? You're going to have

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