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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

2020 Hindsight: The Tories’ year of living dangerously, with DAVID GAUKE

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 21 December 2020

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

How it started, how it’s going… This was a year that blew up Boris Johnson’s plans for post-Brexit Britain and forced the Conservatives into uncharacteristic economic intervention. What has 2020 done to a newly-purified party of true believers? Former Conservative MP David Gauke tells Ros Taylor about the state of the New Tories, what would have happened if Cameron hadn’t called a referendum on the EU, and how the Conservatives have become “a party of protest, not government”.  “It’s a discontented party. It’s uncomfortable. And it’s rebellious.” “It’s now hard to see that there’ll ever be pro-European advocacy in the Conservative party again.” “There’ll be a gravitational pull towards those socially conservative Red Wall voters… Anyone who’s expecting a return to Cameron-style government will be disappointed.”  “The Tory Party has taken on the personality of a newspaper columnist, rather than a traditional party of government.” Presented by Ros Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I loved going to college.

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It's good you can retrain and do something.

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and welcome to another 2020 hindsight edition of the bunker where we look back at the year and into the future.

1:14.8

I'm Rod Taylor.

1:15.8

What does it mean to be a conservative at the end of the first year of Boris Johnson's leadership?

1:20.3

Has the party become purely a vehicle for Johnson or does it still have some independence of spirit?

1:26.0

And for those now outside Johnson's tent, what happens to you when the party you devoted your life to turns against you.

1:33.2

With me today is a man who knows that feeling very well.

1:36.2

David Gork, former work and pension secretary, justice secretary and

1:40.6

Lord Chancellor, and now head of public policy at McFarlains and very much a former member of the Conservative Party.

1:47.0

Welcome to the bunker David.

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