2020 Déjà vu: Performative Compassion and the Female Influencer | Joey Williams | Ep. 269
Kindled Podcast | Truth and Grace, Boldly
Haley Williams
4.5 • 627 Ratings
🗓️ 26 January 2026
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
If you've unfollowed 50-70 decor, cooking and home influencers in the last 48 hours, you're not alone. I'm hearing it from everyone. It's 2020 all over again. We all remember the black square, right? Only this time it's not a black square symbolizing your allyship for "Blackout Tuesday" it's twisting scripture and expressing how heavy hearted you are for the "situation in Minnesota."
Granted - it's bleak. It looks like a third world country. But why? Who is inciting the violence? Encouraging the agitators? Who is actually to blame?
We're unpacking the influence and impact female influencers are having (yet again) seeking to signal to their audiences what the correct and moral take on this whole situation is.
I chat with my husband about 2020, now, and a time when I myself was deceived by female influencers just like this.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello and welcome back to Kindled podcast. I am your host, Haley Williams. I have a really |
| 0:16.0 | interesting episode for you today. I sat down with my husband, Joey, and we recorded a conversation |
| 0:20.6 | between just the two of us around what we're seeing in the news right now. episode for you today. I sat down with my husband, Joey, and we recorded a conversation between |
| 0:21.1 | just the two of us around what we're saying in the news right now and how it feels like |
| 0:26.4 | 2020 all over again. For many of us, 2020 was a very impactful and kind of a watershed year, |
| 0:34.2 | where it woke us up to a lot of things. It showed us the church we were in, the community |
| 0:38.2 | that we were a part of, what our friends and family actually believed. Uh, it marked those of us |
| 0:44.4 | who were an adult during that time and lived through it. We will never forget what it was like |
| 0:50.4 | to see people caving to societal pressure, to falling for the narrative, to bending to |
| 0:55.9 | social justice and, you know, CRT, liberation theology. We will never forget how we saw it |
| 1:02.9 | infiltrate our churches and how it changed our lives. And yet it kind of feels like we're actually |
| 1:09.9 | living through a repeat of that. It feels like |
| 1:13.0 | deja vu with the social media posts, the influencers, especially the female influencers, |
| 1:18.4 | you know, virtue signaling and hopping on to let everyone know how heavy their heart is |
| 1:22.8 | and how they won't stand for human rights violations and they can't stay silent any longer. |
| 1:28.7 | And yet, you know, these same people have had nothing to say for like Charlie Kirk or for the 70,000 babies that have been aborted in this month alone in 2026 so far. |
| 1:40.8 | So anyway, Joey and I just sat down and had a really candid and casual conversation that I |
| 1:45.9 | think you will enjoy and at least identify with in a lot of ways. We lived this, and I know that |
| 1:53.1 | you guys did too. And maybe it'll help you kind of think through why people are doing what they're |
| 1:58.8 | doing now and how to respond and how to, |
| 2:02.3 | especially as a woman, stay on guard and keep your mind free from infiltration and manipulation |
| 2:09.9 | by people who do want to co-opt your empathy and your care and concern for human beings and human |
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