Was John Paul II II,

the First, was he murdered by Vatican officials?

He was the September Pope of 1978.

He ruled for only 33 days and there are a number of

conspiracies surrounding the final days of his life especially as

regards to Vatican Bank and some people also think that he is the Bishop of White

that was prophesied in the Third Secret of Fatima.

That's not something that I hold or Tim holds,

but we're here today to talk about John Paul the first and this conspiracy surrounding whether he was murdered or whether he died of natural causes.

So first off, Tim, is this a conspiracy theory? Is it a conspiracy? What are we talking about? I think most people have heard of this, but let's situate it for him.

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, conceptually, there's an important

distinction to be drawn between I think a legitimate conspiracy that has enough

evidence to go into popular record and public record as something that's just happened like

Brutus and Cassius, you know, with Caesar or something like that.

And a conspiracy theory. with Caesar or something like that.

And a conspiracy theory, we were talking to,

I think, Pat Coffin about the difference

a little bit the other day.

And it's an important thing, a conspiracy theory,

I think is a CIA generated term. And it's an important thing, a conspiracy theory, I think, is a CIA generated term.

And it has built into it in credulity subjectively and incredibly.

So yeah, this definitely, as you and I were just saying before we rolled here, it's definitely

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