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De Beligns. It is me Troy McKeety and Kelly Williams.

And we are doing something that I am so, I can't even put into words

how excited I am to do this episode I'm not going to lie to you.

We are talking today about celebrity stalkers and this is a conversation that I feel like does not

get had enough.

Don't you agree?

I think it's because it's like so scary.

Like when you told me you wanted to do this,

I was like, oh, I try not to think about stockers at all.

Yeah, yeah. And I feel like we never take stalkers into account when we think about like

stuff that celebrities are going through and stuff because I think I don't know I can only

speak for myself but like growing up I just kind of was like I was always like yeah

every celebrity has stalkers like it's a common thing people are obsessed with you blah blah blah

but when you actually look into celebrity stalkers and like the lengths that they go to

like putting hits out on people hiring hitmen like the ways that they want to kill celebrities is so it is so crazy like I think if more people knew the gory details of it like they would, they would take it more seriously.

And it's really wild that sometimes it goes from like just sending letters to being like,

no, this person's in love with me and I'm going to let them know why they're in love with me.

Like I guess I've always kind of wondered how and when that line gets crossed and obviously it's like a lot of mental health stuff but I found something

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