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["The Best of Us"]

Hello, welcome to another episode of The Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network.

I'm Matthew Glacius here with Jane Kostin and Pro Publica's Dara Lind.

Today is December 31st, 2019.

We snuck into the office.

We stuck into the office, which is closed, but we are here.

Gonna do a kind of a year-end show, etc.

So I thought I'd just start out like, what surprised you in the year of our Lord 2019?

I think the thing that surprised me was how much,

especially within the world of conservatism, how they're kept being arguments made where I was like,

oh, interesting. So we're just going to do like 1993 again.

Like a lot of like the debates over pornography or kind of the debates of like,

you know, what is government for? What are we doing here?

It was interesting because it really did harken back to me to kind of this idea of

using the forces of government to do things that you want to do,

not just abandoning government, it's a concept and this, you know, kind of the break between

conservatism and libertarians has been really interesting to me.

I think that's been somewhat surprising.

Also, I've been interested in how much, I don't know, I feel like 20, I keep having moments

where I thought that something happened in 2019 and then actually happened in like 2017.

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