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Well our next guest writes quote, American policing is in crisis.

Alton Sterling and Philando Castile are two of the most recent casualties in what's

become a deadly epidemic.

It may surprise you to learn who wrote those words, not a Black Lives Matter activist,

but a former big city police chief, Norm Stamper, is the former police chief of Seattle,

Washington.

He joins us now from Los Angeles, California, his new book to protect and to serve how

to fix America's police.

He recently read an article, a time magazine called Police Forces Belong to the People.

His previous book had lined breaking rank, a top cop's expo-say of the dark side of American

policing.

Norm Stamper, welcome back to Democracy Now.

As you look at what happened in the last week alone, not to mention what has happened

in the years since you were the chief of police in Seattle, what are your comments about

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