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We are ready for the next portion of our program, which is a conversation with Charles

Krauthammer. When I'm with Charles, I mentioned how it used to be that when I wanted to try to impress people, I would introduce

myself out to say, hey I'm Rich Lowry, I'm the editor of National Review.

Now what I do is say, hey and Rich Lowry, 20 years ago I very briefly worked as a research assistant for Charles Crowdham.

And then suddenly I can see the new esteem in which I'm held.

And it's a little hard to remember,

but I actually worked for Charles before he was a TV star. But Charles is a most unusual TV star.

He is the most dower TV star on television. In fact, a couple of years years ago executives at Fox are very concerned that the

political panel was just too serious and too dark and too sour on Brett Bear's show. so they decided to lighten it up.

They needed someone who's much brighter, more cheerful presence,

so they added George F Will to balance Charles. I was asked last year actually to participate in a

roast of Charles that Commentary magazine had and it was the inspired idea of John Padore that it must have been really funny

for me to be a frightened green behind the ears, 21 year old working for this formidable giant of journalism

and conservative thought.

And I assure you, yeah, it was hilarious but I really objected to the whole idea of the

roast which I really thought was like gathering a bunch of lesser scribes to get

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