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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

(2014/11/07) Debating the structures of extremism (Religion)

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2014

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Edition #874

Today we examine the fallout of the discussion between Bill Maher, Sam Harris and Ben Affleck on the subject of Islamic extremism. Turns out it’s complicated.

Show Notes

Ch. 1: Opening Theme: A Fond Farewell - From a Basement On the Hill

Ch. 2: Act 1: .@BenAffleck, @SamHarrisOrg and Bill Maher Debate Radical Islam - Real Time with @billmaher - Air Date: 10-6-14

Ch. 3: Song 1: Hello Bonjour - Yell Fire!


Ch. 4: Act 2: .@BillMaher Finds Friends In Big Bigotry Following Ben Affleck Blow Up - @theyoungturks - Air Date: 10-08-14

Ch. 5: Song 2: Your Racist Friend - Flood


Ch. 6: Act 3: There Is No Such Thing As "True Islam" - @majorityfm - Air Date: 10-07-14

Ch. 7: Song 3: Everloving - Play & Play: B Sides


Ch. 8: Act 4: Caller: Thom is Wrong About Peace-Loving Muslims... - @Thom_Hartmann - Air Date: 10-07-14

Ch. 9: Song 4: I Can Help (Single Version) - The Very Best of Billy Swan


Ch. 10: Act 5: Power structures influence behaviors regardless of religion - Old School TYT (@theyoungturks) - Air Date: 10-10-14

Ch. 11: Song 5: Powerless - The Big Picture


Ch. 12: Act 6: .@RezaAslan's Religion Apologetics Are Dangerous - @davidpakmanshow - Air Date: 10-27-14

Ch. 13: Song 6: Riptide - Dream Your Life Away


Ch. 14: Act 7: Atheists: @RezaAslan is Wrong About Islam. – Not So Fast! - @majorityfm - Air Date: 10-09-14


Voicemails

Ch. 16: We're too complicated to be put into boxes - Colin from Cleveland, OH

Voicemail Music: Loud Pipes - Classics


Ch. 17: Bonus Clip - Sam Harris And Cenk Uygur Clear The Air On Religious Violence And Islam

Ch. 17: Final comments on explaining vs excusing and one of the reasons why Bill Maher is and asshole

Closing Music: Here We Are - Everyone's in Everyone


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0:00.0

This program is made possible by the members and donors to the show.

0:05.4

For details, visit the membership tab at BestOfAleft.com.

0:09.0

Now welcome to the award-winning BestOfAleft podcast with clips today from Real Time with Bill

0:13.1

Marr only by necessity.

0:15.0

The Young Turks, the majority report, the Tom Hartman program, old school TYT and the

0:19.6

David Pakman show.

0:21.2

Now this first clip is far from being normal BestOfAleft material, but it is necessary

0:26.0

to lay the groundwork for the rest.

0:28.2

Just want to make that clear.

0:30.4

Liberals have really failed on the topic of theocracy.

0:35.0

They'll criticize white theocracy.

0:36.8

They'll criticize Christians.

0:39.0

They'll still get agitated over the abortion clinic bombing that happened in 1984.

0:44.6

But when you want to talk about the treatment of women and homosexuals and free thinkers

0:49.6

and public intellectuals in the Muslim world, I would argue that liberals have failed us.

0:55.0

And the crucial point of confusion is that we have been sold this meme of Islamophobia

1:06.7

where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims

1:13.0

as people.

1:14.0

That is intellectually ridiculous.

1:16.7

So hold on, I agree.

1:17.7

Are you the person who understands the officially codified doctrine of Islam?

1:21.7

I'm asking you, if I criticize that Islamophobia is not a real thing, that if you're critical

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