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Now welcome to the award-winning Best of the Left podcast with Clipsidae from the David

Packman show, The Young Turks, Throwing Shade, the Majority Report, All-Out, dot org,

activism from Best of the Left and dance average.

I talked about how we have to be careful when we talk about LGBT rights and not to equate

the struggle for LGBT rights with other struggles for equality, be it racial equality, be it

gender equality, because every one of these struggles is different.

But at the same time, I think in many cases it is pretty useful to draw parallels that

exist between different struggles for equality and to look at the historical context.

And we saw a great example of this in a hearing about so-called threats to religious freedom.

Now once you stop laughing about the fact that so-called threats to religious freedom are

now the subject of congressional hearings.

Once you get beyond that absurdity, we can actually look specifically at New York Congressman

Gerald Nadler, who grilled Matt Staver, who's an anti-Gaze zealot from the Liberty

Council yesterday.

And they started talking about this constant thing that now we're hearing about.

Is it a violation of religious freedom to say you can't refuse service to someone on

the basis of them being gay?

So let's first talk about this first clip.

I'm going to play the clip for you.

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