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From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

2013 saw instability in the movie world with some huge misses and a bunch of executive dismissals.

Hollywood names took to crowdfunding to finance their movies and in TV Netflix got into the Emmy race.

It's an all-Hollywood news banter year in review coming up next.

I'm here with John Horn of the LA Times, my usual banter buddy and a regular contributor to the business.

Hello, John.

Hello, Kim.

And we're joined by Michael Schneider, L.A. Bureau Chief of TV Guide magazine and host of our monthly TV podcast, The Spinoff.

Hello, Mike.

Hi there, Kim.

Now, Mike, one reason we started producing the spinoff is that there has been so much going on in the TV world.

2013 saw huge shifts and changes.

So let's start with you and maybe with Netflix.

Yeah, this was a fun year to cover the business of television because Netflix just threw a firebomb into the entire industry.

You couldn't go more than a few seconds without Netflix coming up in every conversation you had with every exec in television.

It changed the way viewers consume television. It changed the way networks program television. It changed the way viewers consume television.

It changed the way networks program television.

It changed the way producers sold television.

It's really changing just the way we think of television.

Well, let's walk through that a little bit.

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