The following talk is given by Tara Brock, meditation teacher, psychologist and author.

I'm glad to have you.

When we do this next part of things, any inquiry you have, anything you'd like to share,

and if there's anything that came up around that line from the poem describing pieces, this heart space where everything that is is welcome,

whether that resonated or didn't, or you found that challenge or whatever, that can be part of it too.

So I've been doing primarily open awareness, natural presence, kind of meditation lately.

So I'm churning a little bit about emotions, no surprise, because I'm aware that I'm also,

seemed to be in a slightly more dissociative state than I, it doesn't not permanently, but there seems to be a, I'm a little more aware of more dissociation lately.

So it just has me in that inquiry around whether my, just sort of the way I'm built, I need to be inviting a motion more than I am right now.

That's kind of the idea in my meditation.

And do you try that sometimes? I mean, do you say okay right now? I'm in a, you know, not, you know, not so much.

I mean, I kind of just let myself do what I feel like doing.

And in the last few weeks, I've been in a more, you know, sort of open awareness sort of place.

Is there any sign, anything that lets you know any subtle duke with the dissociation?

Is there anything that lets you know that there is dissociation and there may be avoidance?

Well, at some time, during meditation, I don't feel dissociated.

So, you know, it's like I'm noticing, you know, I'm noticing my triggers and other parts of my life.

But when I'm in the, you know, when I'm on the cushion, not so much, you know, I don't, I feel peaceful.

I mean, I feel very there. I don't feel like there's anything I'm avoiding in that moment.

So you feel open and present and are you embodied?

Yeah. So you feel awake in your body. Like if you checked in, you, yeah, you're really open to sense things.

Yeah, yes. And the heart space is a, you know, it's a bit of a challenging one for me.

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