2012: Part 2

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast

The Snakes & Studio71

Society & Culture, Music, Music Commentary

4.8 • 826 Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2020

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

It's been a while....there's a pandemic but we're still thinking about the end of 2012. That's how monumental it was. We discuss the tumultuous highs and lows of one of the most prolific album cycles that Taylor Swift has barged through. We discuss the release strategy for Red, review all of the singles, and dive into a track-by-track review of what is widely thought of as her most experimental album. There's a lot of drama, too. Old flames flicker with John Mayer, Joe Jonas, and Taylor Lautner. We get a fresh and impending heartache in Harry Styles, and discuss one of Taylor's first intense public backlashes. We talk music videos, property purchases through shell companies, rocky live performances, and the sheer artistry behind some of the best writing in her career. Some of the juiciest easter eggs hatch in this short span of time. We rehash the fandom discourse of Taylor Swift becoming a pop artist, and revisit some foundational image changes, as well as the 'good girl' pathology that endured until very recently. Follow us on twitter for more updates, and let us know your thoughts @tswiftpodcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the evolution of a snake. I'm Zach. And I'm Madeline. And this is 2012
0:24.5	part two. So this is going to be a monstrous year for us to get into just because Taylor
0:32.6	was running around doing everything all the time. Yeah, I think part two is going to be, when I was reading the outline, I think it's going to be
0:39.3	even more, even more of a beast to tackle than part one was.
0:43.8	Because in this one, we actually get to go through the album.
0:46.5	And Red is such a long fucking album to get into.
0:49.3	There's so much material.
0:51.1	And we have such differing opinions on this topic.
0:55.0	What's good about this is that we're not doing this in like 2016, because I feel
1:00.0	like we would have been even fucking crazier about it.
1:02.0	But now I feel like my red opinions are not so...
1:06.0	Mean.
1:07.0	I don't know.
1:08.0	Yeah, exactly.
1:09.0	I've definitely like grown out of a couple of my really meaner one. So it should be, it should be okay.
1:14.9	It should be fine. Also, we'd like to remind everyone to stay quarantined, do your part for society and don't be an asshole.
1:22.0	So we, in 2012, part one, we left off with the monster selling, iconic hit single, never been done before.
1:29.6	We are never ever getting back together.
1:31.8	So on August 30th, 2012, we get the music video for We Are Never.
1:36.2	And that is released on CMT and MTV, and it's directed by Declan Whitebloom, who also directed
1:42.3	mean and ours, which are both questionable visuals. I have to say
1:46.8	neither, none of these make it into my top five or ten of videos that I like of Taylor's. And what was
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