Hello and we're delighted to be

welcome to the spike podcast I'm Fraser Myers back with me as ever we have

Spikes editor Tom Slater and we're delighted to be joined by an extra

special guest James Heel. He is the diary editor of the Spectator and author of Out of the Blue. Thanks for coming on the show.

Pleasure. So it's been another roller coaster week in British politics.

Rishi Sunak is our new Prime Minister. Boris Johnson tried for the job and pulled out in the end.

Penny Morden didn't quite make it to enough support we've got a

new cabinet I mean James what's your impression of this kind of crazy week it's

just madness isn't it? Look, the Liz Trust's experiment and ended rather

early, I think we all thought, and in many ways the dynamics of the contest, you

want to call it that, contested coronation over the weekend, were a reaction to that and that's why everything that Ritchie Scenic does is meant to see

as very much a contrast to that because obviously it went so disastrously wrong and now Roshtinek has taken over.

Some of his more, you know, triumphant supporters would say,

you know, completely vindicated, I think Susank himself was a more modest man than that,

but you know, really I think his arguments over the summer are now seem to have a much more better

hearing within the party, although it is very still divided.

Tom, the sense seems to be, at least coming from the media, that the adults are now back in the

room, the grown-ups.

The sensibles.

No, definitely and that's one of the things that makes your stomach turn a little bit.

As far as I mean Ritchie Suak is a quite inoffensive character.

It's hard to be angry at him, it's like being angry at Morang or something, it just doesn't really work.

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