Welcome to Seltzer Squad, the podcast about staying sober in the city with your host, Kate Sander and Jess Valentine. Hey, Squad.

Hello,

Hey, Tom.

Hey, Tom.

Hi, Katie.

How are you?

I'm good.

What are we talking about today?

I think you have a large milestone to celebrate. That's true. Today,

tomorrow, I am, well, this week when you guys are listening, but today is also Jess's birthday.

So Jess, if you're listening, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Jess. Today is my seven-year soberversary, seven years.

Congrats. Thanks. I wanted to have you on because I feel like you've been up close and personal for the before, during, and after of these seven years. What do you think?

Well, it's been a long journey for you and me, I guess, and I guess all those around you, right?

Yeah.

Like people have come and gone.

There's, you know, you've had your constants like your family and me, I guess, pre-sobriety post-sobriety during.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like you are the one that probably knows the most about it because you were there every single day, for the most part.

Sure.

And I mean, I think there's, you know, if you think about

before you got sober and after you got sober, there's probably, you know, highs and lows during

both, right? Like, you've had highs and lows when you weren't sober, and you've had highs and

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