201 - Garry Kasparov on Why Freedom Always Wins
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🗓️ 18 December 2023
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Summary
✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode:
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Chess Legend and Freedom Fighter Garry Kasparov on AI, Geopolitics, and Crypto.
One of the first people to experience machine intelligence in a profound way–greatest chess player in the world when he lost a match to IBM computer program Deep Blue in 1997—since then, humans have never been able to beat machines in a game of chess.
The theme of this episode is Freedom. Garry’s optimism shines through on this topic. With experience in Geopolitics, Artificial Intelligence, and Human Rights, Garry Kasparov might just be the perfect guest to guide us through some very challenging topics that will likely define the rest of this decade, and beyond.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
9:00 Gary’s Background
20:45 Chess & AI
24:38 e/acc vs. d/acc
28:53 AI & Human History
37:40 Russia & Freedom
49:25 Can Democracy Win?
56:32 Defining Evil
59:31 Garry on Crypto
1:03:00 Leadership
1:08:50 Biggest Threat to Freedom?
1:17:53 Crypto & Human Rights
1:21:01 Garry’s Human Rights Fight
1:29:15 Garry’s Advice
1:33:05 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Garry Kasparov
https://twitter.com/Kasparov63
Human Rights Foundation
https://hrf.org/
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | What do you think is the biggest threat to freedom right now? |
| 0:03.0 | Is it China? |
| 0:04.0 | Is it Russia? |
| 0:05.0 | Actually, I want to throw a third candidate in there. |
| 0:08.0 | The United States. |
| 0:09.0 | I mean, is that a threat to freedom? |
| 0:12.0 | Um... |
| 0:20.0 | Welcome to Bankless, |
| 0:21.0 | where we explore the frontier of internet money at internet finance. |
| 0:24.0 | This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here with David Hoffman. |
| 0:26.0 | And we are here to help you become more bankless. |
| 0:30.0 | Guys, we have chess legend and freedom fighter Gary Kasparov. |
| 0:33.0 | He talks about AI, geopolitics, and crypto. |
| 0:36.0 | Gary was one of the first people to experience machine intelligence in a profound way. |
| 0:40.0 | He was the greatest chess player of all time when he lost his first match to an IBM computer |
| 0:46.0 | called Deep Blue, this happened in 1997. |
| 0:48.0 | And since then, human beings, that's us, have never been able to beat machines in a game of chess. |
| 0:55.0 | So naturally, David and I start the conversation there. |
| 0:59.0 | Number one, what does Gary think about chat GBT, this new era of AI? |
| 1:04.0 | What does he think about the threats? |
| 1:05.0 | How about the promises of AI? |
| 1:07.0 | Then we get to geopolitics. |
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