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201. Debating the Mexican ‘Barrio Nazi’ Pedro Gonzalez

heretics.

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4968 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

The Barrio Nazi is a reference to Pedro Gonzalez’s twitter description, and it’s evidently something that has been thrown at him. Barrio because he is Mexican-American, and Nazi because he holds pretty right-wing views. As many of you know, I see myself as a centrist, or a moderate, and online I’m often insulted as a centrist dad despite having no children, or enlightened centrist, which is supposed to suggest people in the middle are arrogant or know-it-alls, or whatever. I hold that I’ll talk to people on all sides of the political spectrum and try to find agreement and understanding as much as possible with whoever I’m talking to. Today, I do this with Pedro Gonzalez, whose views are a little to the Right for me. Pedro Gonzalez links: https://twitter.com/emeriticus https://contra.substack.com Andrew Gold links: http://youtube.com/andrewgold1 http://instagram.com/andrewgold_ok http://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Barrio Nazi is a reference to Pedro Gonzalez's Twitter description.

0:06.4

It's evidently something that has been thrown at him from time to time.

0:10.4

Barrio or Barrio because he is a Mexican American and Nazi because he holds pretty right-wing

0:16.7

views but is very very popular online. As many of you know I see myself as a centrist or a moderate and online I'm often insulted as such

0:25.3

you know centrist dad despite having no children as as yet or enlightened centrist which I suppose

0:31.8

suggests that people in the middle are arrogant or know it

0:34.9

alls or whatever, and I suppose we should take those, you know, you've got to take the stuff

0:39.1

that's thrown at you.

0:40.8

I mean I hold that I'll talk to people on all sides of the political spectrum and try to find

0:45.5

agreement and understanding as much as possible with whoever I'm talking to, while also just

0:51.7

politely trying to push back from time to time.

0:53.9

In a recent episode for example about the proud boys

0:56.8

with the left-wing activist called Andy Campbell,

0:59.2

I pushed back quite a lot on some of the assumptions I think he made about the right.

1:03.4

Today I do the same with Pedro Gonzalez, whose views are a little too far to the right for me.

1:08.7

This interview was actually recorded on the Sean Atwood show a couple of months ago,

1:12.4

but even today as I write this, I can see

1:14.3

on Pedro's Twitter that he's just told a woke left-wing Pakistani American called

1:19.4

Kassim Rashid to quote, go back to Pakistan. Now I probably also find

1:25.2

Kassim's views frustrating or difficult to annoying but I think it's a pretty

1:29.5

abhorrent way to debate somebody to tell them to go back to their country or whatever it might be

1:34.6

even if Pedro Gonzalez probably feels entitled to do so coming from another country himself

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