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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

(2009/09/23) Tom Ridge's 'I-didn't-really-mean-it' tour (MP3)

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2009

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Edition #299 Tom Ridge's 'I-didn't-really-mean-it' tour Act 1: Torture reports show Dick Cheney was wrong - The Young Turks Act 2: UK mad at Cheney for preempting their police work - Rachel Maddow Act 3: Debate on prosecuting torture - The Young Turks Act 4: Changing up the terror alert system - Le Show Act 5: Tom Ridge would make same decision about Iraq - Rachel Maddow Act 6: John Dean on Tom Ridge's book and interview - Countdown Act 7: Tom Ridge's 'I-really-didn't-mean-it' tour - Le Show Act 8: Reflection on the Tom Ridge interview - Rachel Maddow Music: God? - The Dodos Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before - The Smiths Hi - Psapp Warning sign - Coldplay Thank you - Dido I stand corrected - Vampire Weekend Take a chance - The Magic Numbers Produced by: Jay! Thanks for listening! Visit us at www.BestOfTheLeft.com Contact me directly at Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com Vote for us and leave comments at www.PodcastAlley.com or Review the show on iTunes.

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by the generous donations by the members of the Best of the Left Podcast.

0:08.0

Now, welcome to the Best of Left Podcast with clips today from the Young Turks, the Rachel Maddo Show,

0:13.0

La Show, and Countdown.

0:30.0

The CIA reports on enhanced interrogation techniques, EIT, have come out.

0:36.0

Now, these are the ones that Dick Cheney said are going to prove how much torture worked.

0:42.0

We got critical information that we couldn't have gotten without torture.

0:47.0

And these documents and these memos will clearly show.

0:50.0

Except, of course, can you guess? They don't.

0:54.0

Okay, now these are internal reports and they are not absolutely clear.

1:00.0

Let me make that part of it clear. When you read the reports, it says,

1:04.0

we got some of our top information from some of the guys that we tortured.

1:09.0

Okay, so now a lot of the media with stops right there and goes,

1:12.0

okay, check, Dick Cheney was right, everybody report Dick Cheney was right.

1:15.0

No, but if you read on, it says, but two important buts.

1:20.0

One, we don't know if they gave that information, in fact, three important buts.

1:26.0

One, we don't know if they gave that information before the interrogation began,

1:30.0

the harsh interrogation, or after in a lot of cases.

1:34.0

And so, for example, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, he came out guns blazing instantly and admitted everything.

1:41.0

Now, again, it's a little unclear as to all of his admissions and what came before the torture and what came afterwards.

1:47.0

But some of the most important ones, he said right up front before they did anything to him.

1:52.0

You know why? He wanted to brag. He's like, oh yeah, we were going to hit the tallest tower in LA

1:58.0

and we were going to hit, you know, Europe and I had all these great plans, et cetera.

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