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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

(2009/08/05) Illegal programs past and future (MP3)

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2009

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Edition #285 Illegal programs past and future Act 1: Only in New York! - Daily Show Act 2: Discussing the Cheney-ordered CIA program - Ring of Fire Act 3: Peter Phillips on ignoring autopsy reports - FORA.tv Act 4: Discussing what to do with acquitted detainees - Le Show Act 5: Obama's constitution speech(s) - Rachel Maddow Act 6: Darius Rejali on authorizing torture - FORA.tv Act 7: Comparing Iranian images to US torture photos - Counterspin Act 8: The heartbreaking story in Iran continues - The Young Turks Act 9: Hard Corps - Daily Show Music: Ottoman - Vampire Weekend Opportunity - Pete Murray I will follow you into the dark - Death Cab For Cutie Change your mind - The Killers Two of us - Aimee Man, Micheal Penn I Know I Know I Know - Tegan and Sara These days - Nico Struggle - Ringside Produced by: Jay! Thanks for listening! Visit us at www.BestOfTheLeft.com Contact me directly at Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com Vote for us and leave comments at www.PodcastAlley.com or Review the show on iTunes.

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0:00.0

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0:09.0

Now, welcome to the BestOfTheLeft podcast with clips today from the Daily Show, Ring of Fire, Fora.TV, La Show, Rachel Maddo, Counter-Spin, and The Young Turks.

0:30.0

As you know, there is an argument going on in this country over what to do with the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.

0:35.0

Now, some have said we have to close the prison, but there must be some judicial process that deals with these detainees, no matter how horrible the crimes they're accused of, whereas others have said,

0:44.0

both arguments have merit. And both arguments are about to be put to the test.

0:59.0

So Guantanamo Bay detainee arrives right here in New York City today, is going to be arraigned on more than 200 counts of murder for his role in the deadly bombings of our embassies, US embassies in Africa.

1:11.0

What is he here? Super criminal!

1:16.0

His name is Alchemyad Gailani, and he's admitted that before the 1998 attacks on US embassies in Africa, he provided al-Qaeda with oxygen tanks and dynamite, but claims he had no idea they would be used to make bombs.

1:30.0

What? They told me they were trying to catch a roadrunner.

1:35.0

The oxygen was for the rocket skates, the dynamite was to blow up the cliff, there was overhanging the roadrunner where he was eating the seeds.

1:43.0

What could go wrong?

1:46.0

Of course, not everyone was happy to see Galani leave Guantanamo.

1:50.0

How is holding them in a prison in Guantanamo that meets all the standards here, or holding them in a prison in your neighborhood, your hometown, New York, or Chicago, or Cleveland?

1:59.0

What's the difference? If they're in jail, they're in jail.

2:02.0

And what the real difference is, we have a place where we can secure them, even if the military commission that tries them doesn't find them guilty.

2:10.0

Yes! A jail where you can imprison people who found not guilty!

2:18.0

Brilliant! Why hasn't anyone thought of that before? We could call it Dungeon.

2:28.0

Others aren't sure we'd even know how to handle such a strange and mysterious trial.

2:33.0

We have no judicial precedents for the conviction of someone like this.

2:37.0

It's true, there's no real precedent for this kind of conviction, except for, I guess Ramsey Yosef would be one.

2:44.0

You'd have Musawi would be another, I guess, I guess really every name that's coming up next to me right now.

2:50.0

All people that have been tried and convicted in the United States.

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