(2009/06/13) The torture debate continues and then ends (MP3)
Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy
Jay Tomlinson
4.5 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2009
⏱️ 76 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Best of the Left Podcast with clips today from the Daily Show, Rachel |
| 0:12.6 | Maddo, Brave New Films, Counter-Spin, The Colbert Report, The Young Turks, and Countdown. |
| 0:29.6 | How long ago a young idealist came to Washington and announced that this time things would be different. No more secrecy, no more lives, no more man-sized safes. |
| 0:39.6 | Let me say it as simply as I can. Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency. |
| 0:46.6 | It's all on the table, baby. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Get a trade in Air Force One for Wonder Woman's Invisible Jet. |
| 0:55.6 | Nothing's off limits for this administration's transparency. |
| 1:09.6 | Now what am I going to do with all these frames? |
| 1:20.6 | You know what I know what must have happened? Obama was all like, I'm going to release these photos. |
| 1:24.6 | And then some guy was like, sir, here are the photos. And then Obama was like, |
| 1:39.6 | put these away in a man's eye safe. |
| 1:43.6 | Actually, the president's reasoning was a little more rational. |
| 1:46.6 | The most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to further inflame anti-American opinion and to put our troops in greater danger. |
| 1:55.6 | That's reasonable. I can accept that. It does crystallize the dilemma we find ourselves in though when we go down this whole torture and abuse road. |
| 2:03.6 | Torturing detainees is allegedly the only way to get certain information that will make us safer. |
| 2:08.6 | But pictures of us doing it puts us in the very harm's way. I guess it gives us only two choices. |
| 2:20.6 | All right, first choice. What would happen if we stopped torturing people? |
| 2:24.6 | What some don't understand, evidently, is that we're at war and it's a different kind of war. |
| 2:31.6 | Somebody we've got in our control may have information that could help us stop and attack. |
| 2:38.6 | The ticking time by the scenario, the possibility of a cell of alchydin in the midst of one of our own cities with a nuclear weapon. |
| 2:44.6 | You do everything you can to save this nation. |
| 2:47.6 | The use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. |
| 2:52.6 | And you use all of your assets to go after the enemy. I guess that settles it. We'll just have to stop taking pictures of it. |
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