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David says there are only two ways to see it, either he's exceeded and inviting

the devil into a church camp in Wisconsin, or he didn't.

There was right around this time of year, David was 12.

Back home in Cheboygan, he went to a religious school, that was pretty strict, fundamentalist.

And one summer night around the campfire, he and his friends started talking about all these

supernatural things they'd heard of.

Not just ghost stories, but have you ever used a Ouija board?

Do you believe in that stuff?

And then stories of like my friend, whatever it was, they were using a juice glass for the Ouija board

and it filled with smoke while they were doing it, just sort of scaring ourselves.

Right, we're just one of the best parts of camp.

Right.

I mean, the next thing I remember is we all went to sleep and I woke up in the middle of the night,

I don't know if I was like half in a dream or what, but I heard something that what I thought was something flying over the cabin.

This sort of like, whew, sort of like.

And in my mind, you know, sort of with all the conversation that had gone on earlier in the evening,

I thought it was the devil that, you know, all this talk had somehow like opened up some door.

Like, you know, if you use a Ouija board, you can bring spirits.

And I knew my friend had a crucifix that he had brought with him this sort of three inch metal crucifix.

And I woke him up and I said, you know, can I have that crucifix?

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