200 - Vitalik Buterin's Philosophy: d/acc
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🗓️ 11 December 2023
⏱️ 92 minutes
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✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode:
https://www.bankless.com/debrief-vitalik-philosophy
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This past year there’s been a great societal wide debate: Tech-acceleration (e/acc) vs deacceleration.
Should we continue the path toward AI or are the robots going to kill us? We’ve been hoping Vitalik would weigh in on this debate ever since our episode Elizer Yudkowski —now he has, so what’s Vitalik’s probability of AI doom?
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0:00 Intro
3:50 The Technology Conversation
15:30 The Accelerationist View
30:30 The AI Problem
38:30 8 Year Old Child
44:00 AI Doom
51:00 d/acc
1:08:30 Improving the World
1:16:45 e/acc
1:20:30 Crypto Tribes
1:27:00 Direction and Priorities
1:30:50 Closing Optimism
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Resources:
Vitalik's Techno-Optimism:
https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/11/27/techno_optimism.html
Tweet Thread:
https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1729251808936362327?s=20
Techno-Optimist Manifesto:
https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/
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| 0:47.0 | Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. |
| 0:58.9 | This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here with David Hoffman and we're here to help you become |
| 1:03.1 | more bankless. Fatalic buterin on the episode today, he's sharing his philosophy with us. |
| 1:09.1 | He calls it deac and explains what he means by it in this episode. I think there's really |
| 1:14.0 | three reasons we wanted to have this conversation on bankless. The first is this. There has been |
| 1:19.0 | a society-wide debate on what to do with technology, specifically AI technology. So we've got the |
| 1:24.9 | tech accelerationists, that's the EAC community, we've got the tech-deep accelerationists, that's |
| 1:30.6 | the EA community. And the debate is whether we should continue on this path forward towards AI, |
| 1:35.4 | the way we've been doing it, or if we should stop because maybe the robots are going to come kill us. |
| 1:40.8 | And I know David and I have been hoping to pick Vitalik's brain on this for quite a while, |
| 1:45.1 | ever since we had our episode with Eliis or Yudkowski who informed us very politely that we're all |
| 1:49.6 | going to die. So we asked Fatalik, what's his probability of AI doom? The second reason for this |
| 1:55.6 | episode is I think the philosophy that Fatalik lays out is something everybody in crypto can line on. |
| 2:01.4 | It's a way to really unite the tribes. It can help us explain what we're doing here to the world |
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