So today is our 200th episode of At The Table. Before we get started, launch into our intro song and

and the regular intro, we thought we'd take a few minutes just to talk about at the table and

because we were just thinking about it a few minutes ago about how this came about and what we

thought it would be and what it wasn't and what it is. And so Cody and Tracy and Bo, let's

let's Matt, you can join us in here too, Karen's with me. So 200 episodes, how many do we,

how many what was your over under Tracy when we started? How many did you think we'd do before we

gave up on this? Definitely not 200. I thought maybe we'd get to 50. Wow. I thought it was 12.

I thought you originally said 12. Oh, I got your trope. You've written 13 books or 12 at the time.

So I was like, if we did one per book, that would probably be this will be a podcast series. That's

kind of what the way I thought we were approaching you. Wow. I actually do remember Pat the I remember

saying to you, you know, this was in, you know, 2019, hey, you should start a podcast or we

should have one here. And then you were like, what is a podcast to people even listen to those

things? You know, and I remember the very first, I got the two microphones. We had it. We were

in a different office at the time. And I was like, okay, now we have all the equipment.

Who do you want me to go get? We'll get to say any leader that you want to be on the podcast

with you. And then you made a terrible mistake that day and said, well, I think you should be on

the podcast. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's a bad idea. And you know, and it was

that we knew how much harder it would be in terms of scheduling to get other people on and

and we just thought, gosh, we just want to bring our stuff to life and have conversations about it.

And again, we didn't know that, you know, there's 50,000 people that listen to this or more.

And that that's which is awesome. We love our listeners. But we just thought, let's just have fun

and see where this goes. And then, you know, Tracy and Bo joined and Matt speaks up and Karen

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