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#200 No, 90% of Catholics Aren’t Leaving The Church… - Joe Heschmeyer

Shameless Popery

Catholic Answers

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9658 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Are 9 out of 10 Catholics really leaving the Church, as many headlines say? Joe examines the study referenced in these articles and shows how it actually paints a much different picture… Transcript: JOE: Welcome back to Shameless Popery and I want to come back from vacation by addressing what sounds on the surface like horribly bad news. There was a story from Catholic News Agency saying nine in 10 cradle Catholics are leaving the church or have left the church. And it didn’t take long for Protestant channels like Cleve to antiquity to seize upon this. Ben sat down with miles from ...

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Seamus Popery, and I want to come back from vacation by addressing what sounds on the surface like horribly bad news.

0:07.9

There was a story from Catholic News Agency saying nine and ten cradle Catholics are leaving the church or have left the church.

0:15.3

And it didn't take long for Protestant channels like cleave to antiquity to seize upon this.

0:20.5

Ben sat down with Miles from answering Adventism,

0:23.8

who now has his own channel called Canon and Creed,

0:26.6

and they claimed these new statistics of Catholic apologists scrambling.

0:31.2

And the problem is, if those numbers sound unbelievably bad,

0:36.1

it's because they are literally unbelievable. They are not true.

0:40.1

And we're going to get into what the actual numbers are and how we know that and see how, you know,

0:45.4

this is actually a very good piece by Bolivant and Rota that has one false line that, you know,

0:53.3

took the internet by storm.

0:54.7

So I want to address that.

0:55.9

Unpack what the data actually says.

0:58.2

And then the positives we can take away from that.

1:00.8

Because there's actually some good news in there if you know where to look.

1:05.2

So with no further ado, here's the kind of misrepresentation of the data that Ben and Miles, and a lot of people did, where they took this to mean, you know, if you raise 10 kids, nine of them are statistically likely to leave the faith.

1:20.3

Nine in 10 cradle Catholics leave the church.

1:24.6

That's a ton.

1:25.9

That's almost everyone.

1:30.6

That's 90% of people who grew up Roman Catholic are leaving the Roman Catholic Church. That's absolutely insane. I just did a show with Javier

1:38.1

Pradoma, where we're talking about this kind of, kind of sort of about the big pull that they

1:43.8

had for all the social media influencers

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