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Hello everybody and welcome to the Marriage Be Hard Conversations

Podcast.

I am Melissa.

Kevin Allen Fredericks.

And you guys know what we're doing on this podcast is having conversations with some of our favorite couples about the realities of marriage.

Marriage is beautiful. It really is. It's a gift and sometimes you want to return that gift.

On occasion you want to say, do you happen up the receipt?

Just maybe want to get a different model.

And so that's what we're talking about.

Again, don't take this as, like, this is why I don't want to get married

no we're not saying that but we are going to give you the real the beauty and

sometimes the not some things that aren't so pretty and so we have one of our

favorite couples here this is our first time like talking talking

talking. Yeah like me guys all the time. I do on Instagram I'll be laughing at your videos.

Period. I'm sure you guys have seen them orbiting the Black Love universe you follow

them online with their adorable children and that is none other than

Ashley and Chia.

Thank you guys so much for joining us today.

Greatly appreciate it.

Yes.

All right, so let's go and get started, okay?

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