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Shameless Leadership

200: Gretchen Rubin: The Four Tendencies

Shameless Leadership

Sara Dean

Self-improvement, How To, Business, Management, Education

4.7 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Gretchen Rubin is the author of several books, including the block-buster New York Times bestsellers, Better Than Before, The Happiness Project and Happier at Home. Her newest book is The Four Tendencies. She has an enormous reader- ship, both in print and online, and her books have sold more than two million copies worldwide, in more than thirty languages. She makes frequent TV appearances and is in much demand as a speaker. On her weekly podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin, she discusses good habits and happiness with her sister Elizabeth Craft. Rubin started her career in law and was clerking for Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor when she realized she wanted to be a writer. She lives in New York City with her husband and two daughters. I was beyond excited and honored to have Gretchen join me on the show (as evidenced by my fangirling at the beginning of the episode.) Gretchen could not have been more fun or fascinating to interview. We also clicked really well and had a lot of similarities, which made it all the more fun to pick her brain. Like she said at the end, “we could keep talking all day.” So, we are basically besties now. Listen in to hear Gretchen share: What are the Four Tendencies and why should you know your tendency Why it’s helpful to also know others’ tendencies How Obligers can immediately get more of what they want rather than caving to others all the time What freedom looks like for each tendency (this might surprise you) How can you get more of what you want TODAY by knowing your tendency Links Mentioned: Take the Four Tendencies Quiz Gretchen’s website: Gretchen Rubin Gretchen’s Books: The Four Tendencies, The Happiness Project, Happier At Home, Better Than Before, Power Money Fame Sex Gretchen and Elizabeth’s Podcast: Happier Follow the SMA on Instagram Thank you to our sponsors: Freshly: for fresh, fully cooked meals delivered right to your door. Save $25 off your first order of 6 meals at Freshly when you use the code SHAMELESS at checkout! KIND: for healthy, delicious snack bars go to KIND Snacks to get 10 KIND Bars for free – just pay shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Shameless Mom Academy episode 200 with Gretchen Rubin. Show notes for this episode can be found by going to

0:07.2

Shamelessmom.com and clicking on episode 200. Welcome to the Shameless Mom Academy. I'm your host, Sarah Dean,

0:18.6

and I'm here to give you and other passionate, dedicated moms

0:21.9

the tools you need to bridge the gap between motherhood and living the life of your dreams.

0:26.3

I'm also here to help you be a little more shameless every day, because if you aren't building

0:31.0

a life you're extraordinarily proud of, what kind of legacy are you building? So let's dive in.

0:41.3

Gretchen Rubin, welcome to the Shameless Mom Academy. I am super, super excited to have you today. I'm so happy to be talking to you. I'm going to be really

0:47.2

honest and vulnerable, but I'm kind of fan girling right now. Oh, that's so nice to hear. Thank you. Well, you always have people where you're like, if just I could get that one person on my show,

0:58.0

that would be so amazing. And you're definitely at the top of that list for me. And for so many of my

1:03.0

listeners, I was so excited when I posted I was going to do an interview with you. People were, like,

1:08.0

screaming on Facebook Messenger, like all caps. Oh oh my gosh I can't believe you're interviewing

1:13.1

Gretchen so this will be really exciting and it's such an honor to have you here well I'm so happy

1:17.7

to get the chance to talk to you yes all right so hopefully my questions won't clue you in too much

1:23.6

what a great stalker I am and then I'll also let you know that I'm sitting here surrounded

1:29.4

by your books all around my feet and on my desks. Oh, excellent. I love that. So I have probably

1:35.2

enough conversation topics for like three hours. So I'm going to try to keep myself concise to

1:41.2

give you the platform here. So let's go ahead and dive in and start with the

1:46.0

dynamics of your personal and professional life. Tell us a little bit beyond your bio and specifically

1:50.7

tell us what you're most excited about right now. Oh, what am I most excited about right now?

1:55.9

I'm in a period right now because my book The Four Tenancies just came out, I'm sort of coming up out of that.

2:02.7

You know, there's like this super intensity of writing a book and then editing it and getting it

2:08.1

through the process and then promoting it out into the world. So then that's like a more kind of

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