Well, today is a treat. I have Bert and our friend Steven on today. And I wanted to talk to them

because they're having very normal, very regular, sometimes tedious relationships with their teenage

daughters, which as a teenage daughter is pretty frickin normal. But these two sweet sensitive men,

I just wanted to talk to them about how they feel about it and what they're kind of going through

thinking about, you know, their relationship with their teenage daughter. Bert was concerned

that everybody know that they actually have a great relationship with their teenage daughter,

just sometimes the teenage daughter is a bit difficult. But I don't think that's anything out of

the ordinary. But I think it was a really good conversation. It was really nice to hear how they

feel. I think it's good to, if anybody else is having trouble with their teenage daughter to hear

two dads who were like, oh, this isn't, this is clunky right now or this isn't working right now.

And this I'm feeling weird about this right now. So I think that's always really helpful to hear

people talk about something that may be struggling with. Even though struggling is a big word,

it is kind of a struggle, even if the struggle is small. So I think it was a really good conversation.

I enjoyed it. We talked about things that wives can do to help them or what me and his wife,

Kathy, and how they can improve and things are really good at being a dad. And I think it's

such a great conversation. So I hope you enjoy it as well. Thank you for all your emails and

all your suggestions on podcast episodes. Thank you for coming back every week. And I hope you

enjoy this episode with Steven and Bert.

Well, I got a brand new pair of rollerskates. You got a brand new key.

I think that we should get together and try for more to see.

I got a brand new pair of rollerskates. You got a brand new key.

I'm fucking a badist. I've ever been in my entire fucking life.

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