Hello, everybody, welcome to three-point perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art.

I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White.

And I'm Will Terry, and all three of us are professional illustrators.

We've all worked for all the major publishers in the business.

Together we've published somewhere around 75 children's books.

And we've all taught illustration at university art programs.

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Each week we come at you guys with awesome listener questions

or fantastic illustrator interviews.

Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue,

but each time you learn something,

brand spanking new. Brand spanking new, that's right. And this is our 200th episode. Technically,

it might be 202 or something like that, but we're celebrating 200. We're celebrating 200 tonight.

And this is a live streaming. So if you're hearing this

later, we're bringing in people's questions live through our YouTube live stream. If you want

to see the unedited version of this, I'm sure that live stream is still up there somewhere.

But first, I just, we've done 200 episodes of podcasts.

Do you remember when we first started podcasting back in 2018, I think it was?

What do you recall from that first, those first, that first year of podcasting?

We did a little more teaching.

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