Hi everybody, Cheryl Ackison here. Welcome to another edition of the Cheryl Ackison Podcast.

Today, a fascinating discussion with a former CIA officer, John Karyaku,

the only person prosecuted and imprisoned over the CIA torture program,

not for taking part in it, but for blowing the whistle on it.

We'll also talk about a new internet product you can use to search the internet

without big brother-keeping track. It's called Pan Quake, P-A-N-Q-U-A-K-E.

And we'll talk about what happened to him and what could very well happen to you

with a weaponized government growing out of control.

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My name is John Kiriaku, J-O-H-N-K-I-R-I-A-K-O-U.

And I am, what is my title?

I guess it's Brand Spokesman for Pan Quake.

Where'd you get the name by the way, Pan Quake?

You know, they talked about that a lot in the beginning.

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