Bill, I'm trying to think of a non-clay way to say time flies when you having fun,

but I guess that's going to have to do. This year, we're celebrating 20 years of producing

the Reasonable Faith podcast. And today we'll talk about how it all started,

changes and challenges through the years.

And we'll bring in our executive director, Michael Lepin,

and get his thoughts here in just a moment.

So stand by for that.

And, you know, I'm glad we're still here, Bill.

We've been together longer than most Hollywood celebrity marriages.

Let me ask you, did you ever think that you'd be doing something like this?

Had you thought about producing something like a television show,

or did you think your platform would be just teaching in public lecture and debate,

restricted to that?

I must say, Kevin, 20 years ago, I had no idea what would become of reasonable faith.

Our initial idea, as you remember, was to have a Christian radio show together,

where you and I would chat about issues of the day, much as we do on this podcast.

But the idea soon morphed into developing the website and the online ministry of reasonable faith,

and since then it has just grown and grown until it is really beyond my wildest dreams the outreach that

reasonable faith is having all around the world.

And by the way, if anybody wants to get a quick sketch of how it all started, you spelled it

out in question of the week number 840 a couple of years ago, so it's available on the website. But let me reminisce a little bit here, Bill, and go back to the beginning. In fact, let me go way back to the very beginning. The Internet had just established, and I found an article by an atheist relating how he decided to go after the arguments

of who he thought was the best Christian philosopher and debater,

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