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Hey, folks, my guest today is Jacob Lensky.

He's building a very cool tool. EcomPilot.net. It's a product research tool for drop shippers. He's 20 years old. He's got a degree. He's a 20-year-old degree apprentice, meaning he works full-time as a software engineer and part-time completing university, which is paid for. And his spare time, he's working on this business, a SaaS product research tool for drop shippers.

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