20. Transgender Pastor Paula Williams and her son, Jonathan, on a father's transition and a son's redemption

All The Wiser

Kimi Culp

Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.9 • 652 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Paula Stone Williams knew from a young age that she was transgender, but as a leader in a conservative evangelical religious community, then Paul, avoided transitioning at all costs. Paul's son, Jonathan, followed in his father's footsteps and began a career in ministry, creating a new church under the same organization. Three months into his new job, Paul sat Jonathan down and told him that he was transitioning to a woman. The community backlash was instant, members exited in mass and funding disappeared. But through the reckoning, they forged a new relationship with their faith, each other, and birthed two inclusive churches publicly and intentionally welcoming the LGBTQIA community.

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1:09.9	in the power of storytelling to inspire us all
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1:39.6	We are so excited to be back with you in this new year and new decade and to share dozens of
1:46.8	fresh inspiring stories. Our first interview of the year is with Paula and Jonathan Williams.
1:55.2	Eight years ago, Paul Williams was a prominent evangelical pastor preaching to millions around the world. In a brave,
2:03.2	courageous, and life-altering act, Reverend Williams came out to the world as a transgender woman.
2:11.1	Paul was fired from his job and shunned by thousands as he transitioned to a woman named Paula. During this exact period, her son
2:21.4	Jonathan was starting his own evangelical church and his world would be equally rocked by her
2:28.9	transition. Jonathan openly shares with us his long and winding road to acceptance, losing and rediscovering his faith, and his commitment to loving his father when his father is no longer a man.
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