Welcome to Seltzer Squad, the podcast about staying sober in the city with your host, Kate Sander and Jess Valentine.

Hi, Jess. Hey, Kate. What are we talking about today? Let's talk about therapy. I feel like you have some thoughts on the matter.

Yeah. I mean, when did you start going to therapy? That's a great question. I don't, I would say... Like, is Nancy your first therapist?

No, no, no, no. I went to therapy when I was about 17 for the first time after I had self-harmed, and then I kept with her for a while. I really liked her. And then I stopped seeing

her, and let's see. And then I went to, like, couples therapy, two different therapists with one of my

exes. I don't really even know how it turned out to two different therapists. But anyway,

and then, so I hadn't gone solo since I was a teenager. And then I started going again,

I think I started seeing Nance about a year and a half ago,

roughly. Yeah. Yeah. And when I first started going, I was going once a week. And now I'm finally at once every other week. Okay. Yeah. Byweekly. Yeah. How often do you go? I'm still in the weekly program

with Nance. I started to when I was like 16, 17, after my mom passed away, my dad was like, do you

want to go to therapy? And I was like, okay, I'll try it out. But I was like an angry 16 year old that

was like, what is this even doing for me? Like, who is this person? You know,

like, what does she know? And then I think I saw people on and off through college. Like,

I went to FIT. They had like a therapist on staff. I think I maybe went once, like never anything

consistent until I had gotten arrested. And then I was like, holy shit, like my life is blowing up.

And I was living in the suburbs at the time life is blowing up. And I was living in

the suburbs at the time dating my ex. And so I found a therapist and I started seeing her. And she

really was like a game changer for me. She's the one that told me that I had a drinking problem

that I had like was inconceivable to me. And I saw her for a while until I moved out of the

suburbs. And then I couldn't really

find another person that I connected with until you told me about Nance. Yeah, I feel like it's

really hard sometimes. Not only just finding one that you like vibe with, but just the whole

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