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This is Ryan Sean Adams.

I'm here with David Hoffman,

and we are here to help you become more bankless.

Bankless Nation, we have an absolutely incredible episode for you super honored to have Chris Berninsky on the

podcast. He doesn't do many podcasts, but there are some ideas I think he wanted to talk about specifically with the

Bankless community and this is just a killer episode. David, what stuck out to you?

Chris to me is this quiet thinker who is always lurking in the background just absorbing information

and really stitching them together in the ways that makes sense to him. So when he gives his thoughts, it's coming from a place of like patience and

contemplation and he in that I think that is really reflected in his like

deliberateness in his ideas and so when he comes to Bankless and shares what he has been thinking about lately

and what he's seeing going on in the Defi world and the greater crypto world at large,

I take pause and I try and integrate his ideas into how I'm seeing things.

And so I have a ton of respect for Chris and the way he thinks and I'm really happy that we were able to get him on the

Bankless podcast to kind of share what he's been thinking about, especially as the

crypto world has seemed to have rounded a corner in the last few months or so.

Yeah, he's one of these guys with some crypto wrinkles to use a metaphor, right?

Like so he's been in the space for a while, got in his 20s, but wrote the Ringing the bell on a new asset class in 2014, 2015 is which was a like

an incredible paper for its time way ahead of things. So he's kind of, he's got this wisdom that's built up in

crypto and having witnessed a few market cycles. And that certainly comes through when we talk to

him about where we are in the market cycle.

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