20. Should We Separate the Art From the Artist?
No Stupid Questions
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🗓️ 4 May 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Did you know that the Rhodes Scholarship was founded on blood money? |
| 0:05.9 | Did you know that everything was founded on blood money, if you go back far enough? |
| 0:10.3 | I'm Angela Duckworth. |
| 0:11.6 | I'm Stephen Dubner. |
| 0:12.6 | And you're listening to No Stupid Questions. |
| 0:15.7 | Today on the show, in the era of cancel culture, should we still be able to enjoy the art of problematic artists? |
| 0:23.2 | Guess the 19th century sin of this dead white man. Also, do you ever feel overwhelmed by the |
| 0:30.0 | question of whether life has greater meaning? When I was 16, I wrote a paper actually called |
| 0:36.3 | The Meaning of Life. |
| 0:41.9 | Stephen, we got a great question from a listener, and it asked the question, should we separate art from the artist? |
| 0:51.3 | And in particular, artists like Michael Jackson or others who you just love their work and then you discover they've done terrible things. |
| 0:59.9 | Allegedly done terrible things, I think, in the case of Michael Jackson, right? |
| 1:03.0 | Fair enough. I think the question is a great one. You know, should I stop watching Woody Allen movies? I love Annie Hall. |
| 1:09.2 | Yeah, it's obviously a timely question since so many |
| 1:13.3 | noteworthy people have been canceled or at least postponed lately between the Me Too movement |
| 1:19.0 | and this closer examination of history on many fronts, including racial and ethnic history. |
| 1:25.7 | But before I answer your question about separating the art from the artist per se, and there |
| 1:31.4 | is a long list of artists whose behavior cuts against what most right-minded people would |
| 1:38.1 | consider honorable or decent behavior, I'd like to point out we could easily broaden this |
| 1:43.2 | good question to sports and politics and commerce. I'd like to point out we could easily broaden this good question to sports and politics and |
| 1:47.3 | commerce. I mean, the founder of IKEA was a Nazi sympathizer as a young man. Does that mean no more |
| 1:54.8 | extort sofa for me? Does that mean no more Swedish meatballs at the IKEA cafeteria? I hope not. |
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