‘20 Days in Mariupol’ director Mstyslav Chernov
Life and Art from FT Weekend
Forhecz Topher
4.6 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2024
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
Today, we talk to the director of the acclaimed documentary 20 Days in Mariupol, Mstyslav Chernov. Chernov’s film is an extraordinary chronicle of Russia’s attack on one of Ukraine’s largest cities in its first days under siege. The city is now destroyed. Mstyslav’s team of journalists were the only press left in the city during those 20 days: the film documents the harrowing experience of residents, from hospital workers to shop owners. It has since won the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service in 2023, and it is now up for best documentary at the Oscars and the Baftas. Mstyslav joins Lilah to discuss the documentary, his experience making it, and his hopes for Ukraine.
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Links (all FT links get you past the paywall):
– 20 Days in Mariupol is available to stream on multiple platforms, including Dogwoof On Demand, Amazon Prime and PBS. The full documentary is also on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvAyykRvPBo
– The FT’s 5-star review of 20 Days in Mariupol: https://on.ft.com/49MWvED
– An FT profile of a number of Ukrainian documentarians, including Mstyslav, Maciek Hamela (In The Rearview) and Karim Amer (Defiant): https://on.ft.com/3OEQEZA
– You can follow Mstyslav on Instagram @mstyslav.chernov
– His novel is called The Dream Time (2023)
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| 0:00.0 | This is Life and Art from FT Weekend. I'm Lila Raptopoul. |
| 0:04.0 | The film 20 Days in Mariupol is an extraordinary documentary that chronicles Russia's attack on one of Ukraine's largest cities, which is now destroyed. |
| 0:14.0 | When full out war began two years ago this month, a number of journalists started heading to Mariupol, thinking Russia would likely |
| 0:20.9 | attack it. |
| 0:21.9 | It was so dangerous that within days, only a small team from the Associated Press was left. |
| 0:28.1 | The images and video they shot were broadcast across the world in small clips on the news, |
| 0:33.5 | some of which you may remember, like video of a bombed maternity hospital ward. |
| 0:38.4 | Mstislav Chernov was the videographer on that team. |
| 0:41.6 | When he and his colleagues were eventually smuggled out of the city, he had hours and hours of footage, |
| 0:47.0 | so he decided to make a feature-length film. |
| 0:49.7 | His documentary chronicles his 20 days there chronologically and gives us the larger context of those |
| 0:55.8 | clips we saw on television. 20 Days in Mariupil is now up for best documentary at the Oscars |
| 1:01.8 | and the BAFTAs and Mistislov is with us in our London studio today. Mistislov, hi, welcome to the show. |
| 1:09.2 | Hi, thank you for the invitation. |
| 1:11.9 | And we're grateful to have you. |
| 1:15.4 | I want to start by asking you a little bit about yourself, if you don't mind. |
| 1:17.4 | You're a journalist and a videographer. |
| 1:19.5 | You've covered many conflict zones. |
| 1:25.9 | But you started as a fine arts photographer, and you've written a novel that reflects on the experience of war. |
| 1:27.1 | Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, interesting that we start from |
| 1:30.6 | there. As many other Ukrainian journalists, writers, filmmakers, a war started in Ukraine in 2014, |
| 1:40.6 | and we all kind of automatically became war correspondents, each one in our own way. |
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