Mike Malinin, drummer for the Goo Goo Dolls joins the guys this week to discuss vat grown beef, the decline of beer, and how to not use your Kindle properly when going on tour. Also, Brian reveals his love for the most disgusting drink in the world. Subscribe to the Grumpy Old Geeks on iTunes and give us a five star rating. You know you want to! Shownotes: Mike Malinin The Goo Goo Dolls To the winner goes the spoiled? STFU kid, rules are rules and spelling counts. And wtf kind of lesson are his parents teaching him? Why Are American Drinkers Turning Against Beer? Lab Meat In a nutshell, why old media doesn't get it. And a pretty good explanation of how the music industry died. Goodbye Lavabit Email service used by Snowden shuts itself down, warns against using US-based companies Life of a stranger who stole my phone Secure, anonymous shadow internet hacked by the NSA Keys Duplicated Pwned again: An exclusive look at Pwnie Express’ newest hack-in-a-box Pinboard - Link manager - $10.16 lifetime Jason's Pinboard The most relaxing sound ever for a geek, now updated with computer noises and other items (although a bit too much computer I think, chill it out man!) Least Helpful - Daily Dispatches from the Internet's Worst Reviewers See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.