20.39: Wrapping up our Conversation about Lenses
Writing Excuses
Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 28 September 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This episode of writing excuses has been brought to you by our listeners, patrons, and friends. |
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| 0:11.8 | www.com |
| 0:11.8 | Slash-W-W-W-Patryon. |
| 0:14.9 | Season 20, episode 39. |
| 0:19.3 | This is writing excuses. |
| 0:22.1 | Rapping off our conversation about lenses. |
| 0:24.7 | I'm Mary Robinette. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm Donglan. |
| 0:26.6 | I'm Dan. |
| 0:27.4 | I'm Aaron. |
| 0:28.2 | And I'm Howard. |
| 0:29.9 | And I'm going to start this episode with a confession, which is that our entire |
| 0:34.0 | conversation about lenses came from the fact that Mary Robinette and I were in a |
| 0:37.6 | conversation and I was like, what if we just talked about writing as like, who, what, when, where, |
| 0:42.0 | why, and how? Like, we all remember that from when we were children. It's super easy. And I feel like |
| 0:47.2 | we found out, like, that there's so much complexity within these very simple theoretical lenses, |
| 0:53.3 | that each of these lenses has lenses within the lenses. |
| 0:56.0 | And so my biggest question for all of you is, |
| 0:59.0 | how do you take all this and synthesize it? |
| 1:02.0 | I mean, we've been talking about it and how it was done in all the birds in the sky, |
| 1:06.0 | but for people who are trying to figure out how to take all of this knowledge |
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