20.34: Deep Dive into “All the Birds in the Sky” - Using the Lens of Who

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Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler

Fiction, Business, Careers

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🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Last season we took different works to represent different concepts. But this season, we’re looking at a single work— All the Birds in the Sky by Charlie Jane Anders. So, for the next five episodes, we’re going to look at how Anders’ novel is deploying all of the lenses we’ve talked about this season—who, where, why, and when. And for our fifth episode, we’ll have Anders on the podcast to talk about her novel! We recommend that you read this book before listening to these episodes, as they will include spoilers! So, without further ado, today we’ll dive into the lens of who. We’ll be analyzing tools such as history, community, motivation, stakes, fears, and reactions.

Homework: Who does your character envy and why? What action can they take to act on that desire?

You can purchase a copy of All the Birds in the Sky by Charlie Jane Anders here!

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Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, and Howard Tayler. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson.

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1:15.2	Season 20,
1:16.7	Episode 34.
1:19.5	This is writing excuses.
1:22.2	A deep dive on all the birds in the sky
1:24.3	using the lens of who.
1:25.9	I'm Mary Robinette.
1:26.9	I'm Don Juan.
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