16 miles. Continue straight. Okay now. Ready? Well the right two lanes. I will. We're in

Carmine, Texas here. Small town. What do you see? It's very green here. I see a lot of

little houses along a road that probably has gotten bigger and bigger as time went by.

Over the years we at Dateline have gone all over America to report on stories. The

murder of Galeray Boggersade brought us to Texas. You inevitably spend a lot of

time driving here across some wide open spaces. On this day I had some company on

the long trip. Podcast producer Mary Knoff was in the passenger's seat with

her microphone. We were headed to speak with some of Galeray's loved ones and see

what they had to say about the case. And we got to talking about the hardest part of my job.

What was the learning curve for you with talking to people that have like

undergone such extreme tragedy? Well you got to remember local news where I began is

very good training for talking to people who have come through something terrible.

I remember on a weekend thinking to myself, man that was an emotionally very

draining week because on Monday I was talking to a family who had lost family

members in a fire and on Tuesday I was talking to someone who had lost someone to

remember. So local news is definitely pretty good training for how to speak with

people who have undergone a terrible loss and on Dateline you know the advantage

that we have is that we're not just getting one quick sound bite from these families.

It's one of the reasons that families agree to do this because in a lot of cases it's

the only time that that person's story is going to be told and it's going to be

told at length. There's some depth to the coverage.

Stories about lives lost and those left behind to tell them on this drive that brought me

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