2: Us and Them

Motive

WBEZ Chicago

Society & Culture

4.7 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Damaria Bates and Jimia Stokes started their jobs as mental health workers, full of hope. But soon, they saw signs of severe abuse-- mentally ill prisoners with injuries, drenched in tear gas. When they tried to report the problems, they say fellow staff retaliated against them. In this episode we go behind the walls with the two women, as they try to make changes from the inside out. As two of the only black women on the mental health staff, they say they navigated racism and harassment. They began to feel like it was impossible to do the job they came to do. Sign up for the Motive newsletter for the latest episode drops, behind-the-scenes stories, additional content and updates on events. http://wbez.org/motivenewsletter

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0:00.0	On a new season of WBEZ's hit podcast, Making.
0:04.0	I'm at the rest of July 1960, trying to use a public library.
0:08.0	We're all like other people to be like me.
0:10.0	I always dreamed of it and I want to do it so bad.
0:12.0	When I decided to speak, I had a lot to say.
0:18.0	Join us as we tell the origin story of a different iconic black figure every week.
0:24.0	Making from WBEZ Chicago, find it wherever you get your podcasts.
0:30.0	A quick warning before we start.
0:32.0	This episode includes descriptions of violence and discussion of suicide.
0:36.0	Last week on Motiv.
0:40.0	Society looks at us like we deserved it, you know, E&GL for something.
0:46.0	And it's only in extreme and severe cases that something is brought to attention
0:52.0	when they kill someone.
0:56.0	I was told that he was beaten severely and they sent pictures of him
1:02.0	landing in the hospital bed. His feet came to the bed.
1:06.0	He was my brother and didn't deserve that treatment.
1:10.0	And none of us knew.
1:12.0	I was told that, you know, hey, this prison is in this small town area.
1:18.0	Everybody knows everybody, you know, that it's kind of a family thing.
1:22.0	And it's hard really for anybody to go against that.
1:26.0	Larry Irwin was allegedly beaten by guards.
1:34.0	And I wrote letters with men who say they saw him in the aftermath of the beating.
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