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He is living out of suitcases, lost his home to foreclosure in Baltimore, and yet he's a two-time Oscar winner,

and he is speaking out for one of the very first times since he lost everything to the Me Too movement.

We are talking about actor Kevin Spacey.

And man, did he have some pretty remarkable things to say?

TJ, this has been a seven-year saga for him right now.

And to go from being where he was in Hollywood to being a lounge singer in Cyprus.

What an incredible fall from grace, but what an incredible story to tell with so many lessons to learn.

It's not done yet.

This story isn't done yet.

And lessons to be learned, he speaks.

I guess in a way we haven't heard him speak in this extended interview that he did.

We're getting into.

But you hear about lessons learned for him.

There are lessons for all of us to learn in this story about jumping to conclusions, about

throwing people out, about not waiting to hear both sides, about not, you know, there are a lot

of lessons in this, but this is a, this is a tough one to hear.

And you know what?

I was impressed.

He sounded better than I thought.

Same. He would. I said, wow, he sounds like he's, you know what? He sounds pretty good.

Yes. Kevin Spacey sat down with the telegraph. And if you have not read this article,

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