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Hello and welcome to another episode of The Rest of History with me Tom Holland.

Sitting opposite me is the ever-lovely Dominic Sambrough.

You're very kind. And Dominic last week we were talking about greatness.

Missed myself out. So I guess the complete lack of modesty is the

essential attribute of greatness. Aside from yourself, I mean we went through a lot of great people last

week. In the intervening week, have you come up with any great people? I have.

Because we see we didn't talk about writers, musicians. We didn't talk about Shakespeare or Mozart

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