4.6 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 26 December 2024
⏱️ 7 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | I'm John Datcheworth, Professor Robert Parkinson. His book is Heart of American Darkness, |
0:05.2 | Bewilderment and horror on the early frontier. I am very well read in revolutionary material. |
0:11.5 | I have never seen all of this put together. Suddenly it becomes important to identify how it is |
0:18.5 | the Native Americans were treated by the colonials and vice versa because they lived next door to each other. They took advantages of the same rivers. They hunted the same ground. They intermarried. All of this was happening while the Colonials, the story we know very well, especially out of Boston, revolted from |
0:39.7 | the English crown because of indifference. However, we now go to an additional irony that Rob |
0:47.5 | finds and I'm sympathetic to the story by Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness, about the conduct of a man named Kurtz |
0:57.0 | coming up against natives, indigenous people in Central Africa. |
1:02.0 | Rob, can you explain quickly how these two stories intertwined for you? |
1:09.0 | Absolutely. I mean, this this bewilderment being the the first word of the |
1:15.9 | subtitle is the theme of the book for the authors as well as the reader I think |
1:21.4 | of trying to sort out what all happens here and the the the title and the theme of thinking about Joseph Conrad's |
1:32.3 | brilliant and yet problematic novella, Heart of Darkness, that was published in 1902. |
1:39.3 | Every time, I would teach world history, John, in my first job, two sections of modern world history, |
1:48.0 | and I would often teach this text and leave the classroom thinking, boy, this feels like a familiar story to me. |
1:56.0 | This doesn't seem like, and when you take, for the readers of Heart of Darkness, you might have noticed that at the very, |
2:05.7 | very beginning at the very top of the story, the very first word spoken aloud by the narrator, |
2:10.9 | Charles Marlow is, and this also is one of the dark places of the earth. |
2:13.9 | And he's not talking about the Congo River in the 1880s and 90s. He's not talking |
2:19.8 | about the Scramble for Africa. He's talking about the Thames River and what that must have been |
2:24.3 | like for Roman soldiers, the ends of the earth. And so he's, and so thinking about the Thames, |
2:30.7 | which he then goes on to describe as, which also now floats, the dreams |
2:36.5 | of men, the seeds of commonwealths and the germs of empire, now in the end of the 19th century |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from John Batchelor, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of John Batchelor and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.