For Pacifica Radio, February 8th, 2024.

I'm Scott Horton.

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guest it's great Kyle Anselone he is the host of a great podcast called Conflicts of Interest.

He's also the news editor at the Institute and the opinion editor at anti-war.com. Welcome back to the show Kyle. How you doing?

Doing great Scott. Thanks for having me back on. Happy to have you here and man you wrote

so much stuff this week for the Institute and it's because there's so much bad news going on.

I think we got to start in Gaza, but even that said, I almost don't know where to begin.

How about,

Kyle, has there been any effect on U.S. policy

from the ruling of the International Court for Justice that there's a plausible case

that there's a genocide taking place here and their insistence on all these measures

that Israel is supposed to take in order to prevent such a genocide from taking place.

Unfortunately not, Scott, and almost as the Secretary of State Anthony Lincoln said before South Africa

actually filed in the court ruled on the genocide convention. He warned

that this would actually work out worse for the Palestinians if it's happened and that's been the case because it seems in retaliation

Israel made this allegation that 12 Palestinians took part in the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel.

And they're using that in the US and several other countries and skews

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