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2/2: EUROPE: RISE OF THE POPULIST RIGHT. KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL, NATION

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 20 May 2025

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2/2:  EUROPE: RISE OF THE POPULIST RIGHT. KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL, NATION
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:05.8

I'm John Batchel with my colleague Katrina Vandenhovel, writing with Robert Borsage,

0:10.5

a summary of the European parties.

0:12.9

If you have not kept up, and who can?

0:15.7

My scorecards all marked up.

0:17.3

It's no, it's useless.

0:19.0

The votes go this way or that way, but there is clearly a trend for

0:22.1

the, for the populist right or the far right parties. How do they see Donald Trump's

0:29.1

administration? In general, in general, Katrina, what I find when I talk to Berlin, when I talk to Moscow, when I talk to London, is befuddled it.

0:41.3

Because they read our headlines and they go, but you elected them by majority rule.

0:45.1

What did you find this time in conversation?

0:47.1

Did you say the fun of it?

0:49.3

Well, we came into a Europe that was still reeling from J.D. Vance's speech in Munich at the Munich Security Forum where there was a sense of being, you know, of being appalled by the lecture of Mr. Vance gave the Europeans assembled.

1:04.4

You know, I personally think the Munich Security Conference should go the way of lullabies.

1:11.3

Just, it's like a marketing for weapons and bad ideas.

1:15.7

I think what disturbs many is that there's no, it's very true, the Trump administration,

1:21.5

very transactional, ready to buy anything that moves, vulgar.

1:25.3

But, you know, there's no sense of collective action. Trump, sort of none of our

1:29.6

business approaches the Trump view, but it's, there's no talk of multilateral cooperation

1:36.7

against the threat of climate change. By the way, climate has become a trigger issue in Europe,

1:41.4

because the yellow vest of people, remember them a few years ago,

1:45.2

they turned to Macron who said, well, this is the existential challenge of our time, climate.

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