2/18/22 Ben Freeman on the Army of Ukraine Lobbyists in DC

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🗓️ 21 February 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Ben Freeman joined Scott on Antiwar Radio yesterday to discuss some analysis he recently published that looks at the Ukrainian Government’s lobbying efforts in Washington DC. Freeman combed over records and uncovered over 13,000 political activities that Ukraine reported carrying out in the U.S. during 2021. Among those activities were 2,000 contacts with American media and over 8,000 contacts with Congress. Freeman points out that, although he studies how foreign governments work to influence American politics, this effort by Ukraine is on a whole other level. Discussed on the show: “Army of Ukraine lobbyists behind unprecedented Washington blitz” (Responsible Statecraft) Support KPFK Ben Freeman is director of the Foreign Influence Transparency Initiative with the Center for International Policy. Read his work at AntiWar.com and follow him on Twitter @BenFreemanDC. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	For Pacifica Radio, February 20th, 2022.
0:05.0	I'm Scott Horton.
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0:40.6	me on Twitter at Scott Horton show and we're going to be doing some
0:44.0	fundraising for KFP this morning too.
0:47.2	All right you all on the line I have got Ben Freeman again he is a research fellow
0:52.0	at the Quincy Institute for Responsible State Craft and he has a book called The Foreign Policy auction.
1:00.0	I didn't know that. What a great name too.
1:02.0	Previously, he was director of the Foreign
1:04.4	Influenced Transparency Initiative at the Center for International Policy.
1:09.2	Welcome back to this show Ben. How you doing?
1:11.2	I'm good Scott. Thank you for having me back on. Very happy to have
1:14.8	you here and if that wasn't clear the point of your work is keeping track of
1:19.9	foreign governments who lobby the US government to have their way and as we've
1:25.4	discussed repeatedly countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia seem to have far
1:29.8	more influence than the American people when it comes to American foreign policy and boy oh boy I mean I guess I kind of already knew this but I also learned a lot about the Ukraine lobby as it has matured in the last few years in Washington DC.
1:47.8	This piece is at responsible Statecraft.org Army of Ukraine lobbyists behind unprecedented Washington
1:56.6	Blitz so give us the bad news here bud I feel like I only had bad news when I talk to you Scott. But in this case, it's another example of a foreign powers, lobbyists, PR folks that are really helping to drive the narrative for US foreign
2:18.4	policy here in the US.
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