Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kaggi Dunlop.

This is a broadcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt.

If you create space to be in process by saying something like I have the capacity to be good

with money that creates that possibility and you can train yourself to say that so whenever it comes into your head or you feel like you're with your friends and it's all you know you're playing the role that you used to be and you're like I'm so

stop yourself. Now you may remember in episode 10 we talked to the incredible Africa Brook and we went pretty deep

on self-sabbatage, addiction, the journey to sobriety and the role that the expectations

of those around you play in shaping your behavior.

Anyway, it soon became very clear that we had so much to say that it wasn't going to fit into one episode

and we needed more space to go into all these ideas in a totally different

sphere. The world of work and money, careers, self-worth and self-actualization.

Because of the new year I felt like this would be the perfect time to be talking about these things.

So here you have it. My episode 2 with Africa Brooke who has become a dear friend of mine,

I find her so inspiring and I just love these conversations

we had so I hope you enjoyed this. In terms of like the business aspect of things that you do I'm curious to ask you about the

energetics of money. Okay well what exactly do you want to?

Because there's so much.

I love the face that you just say,

I mean, it's just something that I've been really curious to talk to someone about

and I feel like you're the perfect person to talk to about it because obviously like money in our relationship to it again is a very personal one and it's you know it hasn't been that long since women are actually allowed to work so there's like this disconnect and there's a lot of shame I think around our relationship with money.

I also grew up because of the person that I am and probably the family that I was in

and like it's not really talked about. I'm just a creative kind of squiggly mess so

I don't really think in that kind of way. So it's something I'm like if I feel like that way I'm sure a lot of people will as well. But then there's also the

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